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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177807997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177807997">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> can we send out an email clarifying the labeling system re beta noms?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808035">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>in what sense? the meaning of beta-nominated/beta-accepted? Or the necessity of actually adding a T-label?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808092">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>the latter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808104">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's this: <a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/release/beta-backporting.html" target="_blank" title="https://forge.rust-lang.org/release/beta-backporting.html">https://forge.rust-lang.org/release/beta-backporting.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808107">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see this mistake often</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808118">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think that page is read by people other than the release team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808131">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Whom are you talking about emailing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808139">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>compiler team + contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808186" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808186">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, so we're just trying remind people to include T-labels when they beta-nominate to ensure that the relevant teams actually see the nominations? Sure I can do that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808204">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me doesn't know if we have an email list of all contributors, but he'll find out.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808281">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we actually spend enough effort looking through the full list of no-T nominations and tagging with the team during triage to warrant a mail?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808293">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808314">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main issue is when we/I <em>forget</em> to actually look at the full list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808318">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808322">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>In my experience, no, however annoying lack of the tag might be.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808326" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808326">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it is on the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808330">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have to cleanup other people's mistakes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808340" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808340">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> what do you mean?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808366">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> adding the t-compiler label on beta-nominated PRs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808398" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808398">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it doesn't have to fall on you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808451">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>the point of the relevant bullet on the Pre-triage Process page is that these mistakes are meant to be caught during pre-triage.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808454" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808454">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>guess not; I am on the release team so that is my job...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808472" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808472">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>this seems like something a bot could help</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808482">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>@rustbot beta-nominate</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808486">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808503">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>how does it know which team to nominate it for?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808508" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808508">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>it could also complain if somebody adds a beta-nominated label without a T- flag</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808509">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is not a good use of pre-triage time. Lets table debate about whether to email or not to sometime after the meeting today.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808514">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>not even that, just something that monitors tags being added and nags at you if you don’t add the other tags within 5 seconds.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808520" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808520">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll move this conversation to a forked topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177808583" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177808583">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll put <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span>'s idea on the release team agenda instead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177809137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177809137">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
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<p>not even that, just something that monitors tags being added and nags at you if you don’t add the other tags within 5 seconds.</p>
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<p><del>sounds like a job for the triage-wg <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></del> nevermind too early for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177810496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177810496">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:40)</a>:</h4>
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<p>/me doesn't know if we have an email list of all contributors, but he'll find out.</p>
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<p><a href="mailto:compiler-team@rust-lang.org" title="mailto:compiler-team@rust-lang.org">compiler-team@rust-lang.org</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177810688" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177810688">(Oct 10 2019 at 13:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/team/blob/master/teams/compiler.toml#L41-L55" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/team/blob/master/teams/compiler.toml#L41-L55">https://github.com/rust-lang/team/blob/master/teams/compiler.toml#L41-L55</a> <a href="mailto:compiler@rust-lang.org" title="mailto:compiler@rust-lang.org">compiler@rust-lang.org</a> seems to be the same too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177905611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177905611">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> to follow up on this, what I had in mind was:</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>@rustbot beta-nominate team...
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<p>as the syntax, and rustbot adds the appropriate T- labels. If there is already a T- label, maybe team... can be an empty list. Otherwise, you get back a (hopefully immediate!) error.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177905645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177905645">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would think a similar <code>nominate</code> system might be used to add <code>I-nominated</code> tags (and ensure there is a team)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177905653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177905653">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>This would be a good place for people to leave comments explaining <em>why</em> they nominated something, too :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177905713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177905713">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we want to get fancy, we can edit the top-post with something like</p>
<hr>
<p><strong>Status:</strong> Nominated on 2019.10.11 for T-compiler, [see this comment for details].</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177905746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177905746">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>editing the top post is not too hard since we already have logic implemented for that :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177906481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177906481">(Oct 11 2019 at 13:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> seems ok as a package <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909168">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think a good goal would be that humans don't adjust labels manually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909178">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can get there incrementally, of course</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909188">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>But if we can use a bot it gives us so much flexibility to enforce conventions, ping people, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909196">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not to mention access rights</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909236">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> the main issue is humans writing bot code ^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177909255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177909255">(Oct 11 2019 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>(it tends not to happen...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177918101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177918101">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it can and will happen more with targeted and clear specs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177918123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177918123">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>At least in my eyes that's the main problem historically</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920117">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>my impression is that rustbot is going strong</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920122">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe I will try to hack on it and learn how it works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920123">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>:P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920161">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>(when niko writes a sentence that starts with 'maybe I', it's kind of like <code>if false =&gt; P</code> -- it's always true, but never relevant...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920183" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920183">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>"If I have time I will do X" is true for any X</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920241">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>the main issue is humans writing bot code ^^</p>
</blockquote>
<p>butI kkind of don't get this :) it seems like a fun way to contribute to rust project</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177920248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177920248">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we just need to blog more about rustbot etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177921392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177921392">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> yea, rustbot is also written in Rust so it should be more fun</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible%20T-labeling%20when%20beta-nominating/near/177921403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/responsible.20T-labeling.20when.20beta-nominating.html#177921403">(Oct 11 2019 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>(unlike homu which is an uncommented pile of hacks)</p>



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